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Yahoo email scan shows U.S. spy push to recast

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Yahoo email scan shows U.S. spy push to recast constitutional privacy


Uncle Sam | 207915 hits | Dec 22 7:21 am | Posted by: DrCaleb
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Yahoo Inc's secret scanning of customer emails at the behest of a U.S. spy agency is part of a growing push by officials to loosen constitutional protections Americans have against arbitrary governmental searches, according to legal documents and people b

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  1. by avatar BRAH
    Thu Dec 22, 2016 3:27 pm
    Added with Yahoo's new security issue where they advised to change passwords if they were not changed a couple of months ago, could the company be going the way of myspace?

  2. by avatar DrCaleb
    Thu Dec 22, 2016 3:45 pm
    "BRAH" said
    Added with Yahoo's new security issue where they advised to change passwords if they were not changed a couple of months ago, could the company be going the way of myspace?


    Yahoo! Died! Years! Ago!

    But the implications that secret courts are trying to change the definition of 'search and seizure' should be the takeaway. That, and the fact they don't trust us. ;)

  3. by avatar BRAH
    Thu Dec 22, 2016 3:53 pm
    "DrCaleb" said
    Added with Yahoo's new security issue where they advised to change passwords if they were not changed a couple of months ago, could the company be going the way of myspace?


    Yahoo! Died! Years! Ago!

    But the implications that secret courts are trying to change the definition of 'search and seizure' should be the takeaway. That, and the fact they don't trust us. ;)
    Yahoo email still has some features I like but it's days could be numbered and the test account for ProtonMail seems to be good. Snowden was right and I remember reading Terrorist cells or whoever coordinates them could still use email accessing the same account saving the communications in drafts means they're not sent and can't be read, not sure if that's possible after reading this latest surveillance news.

  4. by avatar DrCaleb
    Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:03 pm
    "BRAH" said
    Added with Yahoo's new security issue where they advised to change passwords if they were not changed a couple of months ago, could the company be going the way of myspace?


    Yahoo! Died! Years! Ago!

    But the implications that secret courts are trying to change the definition of 'search and seizure' should be the takeaway. That, and the fact they don't trust us. ;)
    Yahoo email still has some features I like but it's days could be numbered and the test account for ProtonMail seems to be good. Snowden was right and I remember reading Terrorist cells or whoever coordinates them could still use email accessing the same account saving the communications in drafts means they're not sent and can't be read, not sure if that's possible after reading this latest surveillance news.

    No, General Petraeus let that cat out of the bag. And any self respecting terrorist has their own email server that is inaccessible to the NSA. If they use hotmail or yahoo, they deserve to get caught. ;)

  5. by avatar BRAH
    Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:05 pm
    What did Petraeus do? Besides the charges he made a deal for.

  6. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:10 pm
    "DrCaleb" said
    And any self respecting terrorist has their own email server that is inaccessible to the NSA. If they use hotmail or yahoo, they deserve to get caught. ;)


    Any self-respecting terrorist is back to using individuals as messengers and they're also back to using one-time pads which you can send in the clear without worrying about them being broken.

  7. by avatar DrCaleb
    Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:19 pm
    "BRAH" said
    What did Petraeus do? Besides the charges he made a deal for.


    He used the 'Draft Folder' trick to communicate with his mistress. If the NSA wasn't scanning that folder before then, they were afterward.

    "BartSimpson" said

    Any self-respecting terrorist is back to using individuals as messengers and they're also back to using one-time pads which you can send in the clear without worrying about them being broken.


    Yup, OTP is the way to do that. But so is an independent network of emails servers . . .just in case. ;)

  8. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:22 pm
    Easier to just send encrypted email or coded email.

    If the NSA is scanning for keywords then sending strings of numbers on a one-time pad as an Excel spreadsheet won't be noticed at all.

    And then you bury the actual coded message inside hundreds or thousands of lines of random noise. Good luck breaking that.

  9. by avatar DrCaleb
    Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:53 am
    Glad you are on our side. ;)

  10. by avatar BRAH
    Fri Dec 23, 2016 2:53 am
    "DrCaleb" said
    What did Petraeus do? Besides the charges he made a deal for.


    He used the 'Draft Folder' trick to communicate with his mistress. If the NSA wasn't scanning that folder before then, they were afterward.

    Interesting, maybe he should have used Protonmail.



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