Russia prepares to attack ISIS as Vladimir Putin deploys missile launchers to SyriaMilitary | 206945 hits | Oct 15 12:24 am | Posted by: N_Fiddledog Commentsview comments in forum Page 1 2 You need to be a member of CKA and be logged into the site, to comment on news. |
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So just seeing this as a positive might be overly optimistic.
Russia and Iran unrestrained by Western pushback (not military, political) I think could easily return Assad to dominance. I'm not sure that will be such a good thing either. Doubt Israel would be happy. And ISIS always has Iraq to fall back on unless the Russians/Iranians are feeling really ambitious.
"if there was a solution to this problem, we would have had it by now." to paraphrase big brother.
Way to go, Bushies. You really succeeded quite well in achieving the exact opposite of what you allegedly intended when you went after Saddam in 2003.
And in the ultimate perversity to embarrass the Americans, if this adventure the Russians are engaging in succeeds in crushing ISIS all that will result is that a strong Shia alliance, with Iran as the dominant partner, has come into existence as a buffer/counter the Sunni states led by the Saudis.
I still have my doubts about "crushing" jihad, ie it will pop up again with a different name, but that buffer thingy sounds kinda good - maybe they can keep busy fighting each other. Of course they do it by proxies, ie we're back to terror groups. And with Russia backing Iran in all this, will that make the US suck Saudi dick even harder?
The TOS-1A Solntsepyok(meaning 'blazing sun') arrived in Syria earlier this month, according to the IBTimes, citing a Russian newspaper.
The TOS-1A Heavy Flamethrower System, also nicknamed Buratino after a Russian children's book character, can destroy several city blocks in one strike,
The thermobaric warheads, also called vacuum or fuel-air explosives, spreads a flammable liquid around a target and then ignites the liquid.
The blast is lethal in itself, but the vacuum that follows the explosion is strong enough to cause deadly internal damage, including rupturing of vital organs, such as the lungs.
A study by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency from as early as 1993, writes that the effect of a thermobaric weapon on targets in confined spaces, such as buildings, bunkers and tunnels, is 'immense'.
'Those near the ignition point are obliterated. Those at the fringe are likely to suffer many internal, and thus invisible injuries, including burst eardrums and crushed inner ear organs, severe concussions, ruptured lungs and internal organs, and possibly blindness.'
The TOS-1A has reportedly been used by the Russian Army since 2001 and has also been exported to Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan and Iraq where it has already been used to fight ISIS.
This follows reports that Russia also reportedly moved the TOS-1 system into rebel-held Ukraine earlier this month.
Thermobarics are nothing new. The Americans were using them against Al Qaeda and Taliban that were holed up in caves. Vicious weapons being used on a vicious enemy isn't just ironic, it's practically poetic.
That's the question though. Who is the enemy. I know Russia is saying ISIS.
I remember hearing how the FSA was joining with the Kurds to fight ISIS. They were having success. They were moving in on Raqqa (ISIS central), then the Turks attacked - supposedly ISIS but all we saw blowing up were Kurds. Then the Russians moved in and they were supposedly going to finish off ISIS, but no wait, the only ones we saw blowing up were the FSA rebels who had been allied with the Kurds against ISIS.
Now we're hearing about this.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 93501.html
Aleppo is FSA and other rebels, but not ISIS - yet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of ... %93present)
So now Iran, Russia, Hezbollah and what's left of the Syrian army are moving in on the rebels in Allepo. Not Ragga where ISIS hangs out - Allepo.
Wanna know who else is moving in on the guys who were helping the Kurds to put down ISIS?
A rebel fighter and a group monitoring the war said Islamic State fighters took control of parts of the towns of Ahras and Tel Jabin, about 12 km (8 miles) north of Aleppo, before being pushed back.
Gains by Islamic State north of Aleppo would threaten the supply lines of rival rebels inside the city, which is divided between insurgents and government forces. The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said the road used by Aleppo residents heading north to the Turkish border remained closed on Wednesday.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/ ... A320151015
So it sounds like ISIS is moving in on Aleppo from the north, while the Syrians, Iranians, and Hezbollah move in on the Rebels and residents of Aleppo from the South. The government force allies claim the odd skirmish with ISIS, but who knows.
They're doing this with Russian air support. Oh yeah and now apparently, Thermobaric explosives. According to the description these devices are brutal, devastating, and indiscriminate. And you did read that bit about the "Residents" of Aleppo, right?
So knowing all that I'm supposed to say, "Yay! Go Russians. Who cares about ISIS? Thermobaric the Aleppo residents then back to the Ukraine. Woo Hoo." Is that it?
No our problem, not our fight, and not worth a single penny that's been spent on it no matter what the chickenhawks of the American right wing say.
If you like the idea of the rebels and residents of Allepo getting thermo bombed, fine. That can be your thing. What I'm saying is I'm not sold on this idea the Russians are the great ISIS killers, and that's what it's about.
If the Russians are burning and sucking the air out of the streets of Allepo with thermobaric bombs it's not ISIS frying.
Some of us are still waiting to see the evidence of ISIS being the Russian target. Tell me when they get to Raqqa.