And that makes me wonder how torturous the 'adjustments' had to be before 2014 could be presented as all so hot when it wasn't.
They're obviously not in on the cornspiracy. I mean when a state government isn't accepted as the final word on world climate, what's the world coming to?
And that makes me wonder how torturous the 'adjustments' had to be before 2014 could be presented as all so hot when it wasn't.
1.7 degrees F won't show up on a graph very well, unless you include the numbers as well. And 'Global' warming applies to Connecticut, but Connecticut doesn't necessarily reflect the rest of the globe. Australia is having one of it's hottest summers on record, which will bear no reflection on Connecticut temperatures at all.
And it's impossible to present surface temperature measured by a satellite, as air temperature, without an 'adjustment' as you put it. It's not a conspiracy!
As I always say, the data doesn't lie. After having the 'hottest month on record' pretty much every month this past year, this doesn't come as a really big surprise.
Was Bart really claiming that Connecticut was representative of the whole world? That it had to experience the hottest year for the world as a whole to do so? I've heard of American arrogance and insularity, but jeesh.
"andyt" said Was Bart really claiming that Connecticut was representative of the whole world? That it had to experience the hottest year for the world as a whole to do so? I've heard of American arrogance and insularity, but jeesh.
Bart is a pretty smart cookie, so I hope he knows when he's been hoodwinked. But sometimes it's really tough to tell . . .but I'm quite sure he knows when someone is cherry picking data.
Here's a physicist discussing the Satellite temps for 2014 from RSS AMSU -
RSS AMSU have published their December 2014 values. The global mean temperature anomaly was +0.284 �C, just 0.04 �C warmer than the value in November which increases the annual average estimate just by +0.0035 �C relatively to my previous expectations � a negligible figure. With this tiny correction, 2014 is pretty much tied with 2007 as the 6th-7th warmest year in the RSS AMSU dataset, after 1998, 2010, 2005, 2003, and 2002.
RSS claims that 2014 was a whopping 0.3 �C cooler than 1998. Please laugh out loud when someone will be telling you that it was the warmest year.
Here's one of the scientists responsible for the satellite temps from UAH.
2014 was Third Warmest Year Since 1979, but Just Barely...
2014 was the third warmest year in the 36-year global satellite temperature record, but by such a small margin (0.01 C) as to be statistically similar to other recent years, according to Dr. John Christy, a professor of atmospheric science and director of the Earth System Science Center at The University of Alabama in Huntsville. �2014 was warm, but not special. The 0.01 C difference between 2014 and 2005, or the 0.02 difference with 2013 are not statistically different from zero. That might not be a very satisfying conclusion, but it is at least accurate.�
Curious how CBC didn't think you needed to know that.
Here's one from Bob Tisdale. I don't know what his credentials are. He's always writing about ocean temps every time I see him.
Today, two of the world�s climate-industry giants�the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) and the NOAA National Climatic Data Center (NCDC)�posted their much-anticipated annual results for 2014. According to GISS, global surface temperature anomalies were an astounding +0.02 deg C higher in 2014 than they were in 2010, making the 2014 results the highest in the history of GISS. These record-breaking results from GISS are under the guidance of their new Deputy Director, Gavin Schmidt. If you�re not familiar with numbers that remarkable, they�re read two one-hundredth of a deg C, which is equal to less than four one-hundredths of a deg F. According to the NCDC, their global surface temperature results were +0.04 deg C higher in 2014 than they were in 2005 and 2010, their two previous best years. The warmest years are within the margin of uncertainty for the data*, making it impossible to determine which year was actually warmest. Even so, these results bring new hope to global warming investors, who have had to endure disappointing results in recent decades. GISS and NCDC are once again showing why the CO2 obsessed turn to them for global warming data. GISS and NCDC are global-warming industry leaders�known for eking out record years from poor source data, even during these hard times of global warming slowdown.
Are we going to have another 10 page circle-jerk where non of you change your opinion and argue about the same shit you have over the last 5 years non-stop?
"OnTheIce" said Are we going to have another 10 page circle-jerk where non of you change your opinion and argue about the same shit you have over the last 5 years non-stop?
Yes, and in the spirit of childishness in which it began, "They started it".
But be honest...you knew this before you clicked the link, didn't you?
Not to worry. Just sit back and stay frosty. Here ya go...
But, surely it was hotter in the past, before the 135 year record! I mean, the surface of the Earth was once molten . . .
This graph from the Connecticut state government doesn't show last year as all so hot.
http://www.ct.gov/deep/lib/deep/water/l ... yjun14.pdf
And that makes me wonder how torturous the 'adjustments' had to be before 2014 could be presented as all so hot when it wasn't.
This is funny because NOAA only got started in .
But, surely it was hotter in the past, before the 135 year record! I mean, the surface of the Earth was once molten . . .
Not in Europe it wasn't, another really shitty summer.
This winter isn't any better than usual.
But, surely it was hotter in the past, before the 135 year record! I mean, the surface of the Earth was once molten . . .
This graph from the Connecticut state government doesn't show last year as all so hot.
http://www.ct.gov/deep/lib/deep/water/l ... yjun14.pdf
And that makes me wonder how torturous the 'adjustments' had to be before 2014 could be presented as all so hot when it wasn't.
They're obviously not in on the cornspiracy. I mean when a state government isn't accepted as the final word on world climate, what's the world coming to?
But, surely it was hotter in the past, before the 135 year record! I mean, the surface of the Earth was once molten . . .
This graph from the Connecticut state government doesn't show last year as all so hot.
http://www.ct.gov/deep/lib/deep/water/l ... yjun14.pdf
And that makes me wonder how torturous the 'adjustments' had to be before 2014 could be presented as all so hot when it wasn't.
1.7 degrees F won't show up on a graph very well, unless you include the numbers as well. And 'Global' warming applies to Connecticut, but Connecticut doesn't necessarily reflect the rest of the globe. Australia is having one of it's hottest summers on record, which will bear no reflection on Connecticut temperatures at all.
And it's impossible to present surface temperature measured by a satellite, as air temperature, without an 'adjustment' as you put it. It's not a conspiracy!
As I always say, the data doesn't lie. After having the 'hottest month on record' pretty much every month this past year, this doesn't come as a really big surprise.
Was Bart really claiming that Connecticut was representative of the whole world? That it had to experience the hottest year for the world as a whole to do so? I've heard of American arrogance and insularity, but jeesh.
Bart is a pretty smart cookie, so I hope he knows when he's been hoodwinked. But sometimes it's really tough to tell . . .but I'm quite sure he knows when someone is cherry picking data.
I think he's trying to hoodwink us.
He might be. Good luck, I say.
It's best to not take internet discussions too seriously.
RSS claims that 2014 was a whopping 0.3 �C cooler than 1998. Please laugh out loud when someone will be telling you that it was the warmest year.
http://motls.blogspot.ca/2015/01/rss-am ... ouped.html
Here's one of the scientists responsible for the satellite temps from UAH.
2014 was the third warmest year in the 36-year global satellite temperature record, but by such a small margin (0.01 C) as to be statistically similar to other recent years, according to Dr. John Christy, a professor of atmospheric science and director of the Earth System Science Center at The University of Alabama in Huntsville. �2014 was warm, but not special. The 0.01 C difference between 2014 and 2005, or the 0.02 difference with 2013 are not statistically different from zero. That might not be a very satisfying conclusion, but it is at least accurate.�
http://www.drroyspencer.com/2015/01/uah ... -32-deg-c/
Curious how CBC didn't think you needed to know that.
Here's one from Bob Tisdale. I don't know what his credentials are. He's always writing about ocean temps every time I see him.
https://bobtisdale.wordpress.com/2015/0 ... #more-8619
Are we going to have another 10 page circle-jerk where non of you change your opinion and argue about the same shit you have over the last 5 years non-stop?
Yes, and in the spirit of childishness in which it began, "They started it".
But be honest...you knew this before you clicked the link, didn't you?
Not to worry. Just sit back and stay frosty.