Investigators are probing the background of a suspect in a shooting spree in Moscow, Idaho, that left three people dead and another critically wounded.
There are far more incidents like this in the US and Canada with far more casualties, by various citizens than by jihadist attacks. But all the wailing and moaning is about the jihadis, and how their evil religion makes them do this. Well, what makes people like this guy do this, or the Sandy Hook guy, or too many to list. Those are just the bad apples, the guys gone off the rails, while all Muslims are deemed to be responsible for acts of jihadis. I'm continually assured here by people that the US and Canada were founded by by Christians, ie are Christian nations, and surveys in both countries show the vast majority identify as Christians. Maybe Christianity is playing a role in all this.
(I know, I know, PA9, there I go again slagging Christianity. Terrible. The slagging you and others here give Islam, well that's just common sense.)
"Zipperfish" said I don't understand why you slag Christianity and then complain when people complain about Muslims. Sme shit, different pile, if you ask me.
To show how stupid it is to tar all Muslims with the same brush. Especially when it becomes killing all Muslims the way Bart has, or other extreme measures which even you seem to favor. Making it us vs them (all Muslims) isn't going to do anybody any good. Making it us (including most Muslims) vs them (the jihadis) will work out much better. The Muslims have to do their part, need to get off their asses. I'd like to see them organizing protests against jihadism. But that doesn't mean we get to just sit back and keep alienating them. This could all turn very very ugly (more so than it is now).
As usual, I'm surprised that no comments from you about all the shit flung at Muslims by so many posters, but let me do a little bit of the same, and there you are. Always surprises me what's deemed unremarkable here and what isn't.
To show how stupid it is to tar all Muslims with the same brush. Especially when it becomes killing all Muslims the way Bart has, or other extreme measures which even you seem to favor. Making it us vs them (all Muslims) isn't going to do anybody any good. Making it us (including most Muslims) vs them (the jihadis) will work out much better. The Muslims have to do their part, need to get off their asses. I'd like to see them organizing protests against jihadism. But that doesn't mean we get to just sit back and keep alienating them. This could all turn very very ugly (more so than it is now).
As usual, I'm surprised that no comments from you about all the shit flung at Muslims by so many posters, but let me do a little bit of the same, and there you are. Always surprises me what's deemed unremarkable here and what isn't.
It stupid, but you do the same with Christians.
I don't fling shit generally. Now and then, but not much. I'm not going to change anybody's mind, particulary when it comes to strong emotions like fear and hate.
I don't have much time for devout Muslims, Jews and Christians�in that order actually. I don't have much time for evangelical atheists either to be honest. I live around a lot of Muslims, and I have no problem with them, though they are mostly Iranian. I might feel differently if theyer were predominately Pakistani or Somali. To be honest, I wouldn't trust any white guy that converted to Islam.
"andyt" said No, sure, Idaho is just chock full of muslims.
There are far more incidents like this in the US and Canada with far more casualties, by various citizens than by jihadist attacks. But all the wailing and moaning is about the jihadis, and how their evil religion makes them do this. Well, what makes people like this guy do this, or the Sandy Hook guy, or too many to list. Those are just the bad apples, the guys gone off the rails, while all Muslims are deemed to be responsible for acts of jihadis. I'm continually assured here by people that the US and Canada were founded by by Christians, ie are Christian nations, and surveys in both countries show the vast majority identify as Christians. Maybe Christianity is playing a role in all this.
(I know, I know, PA9, there I go again slagging Christianity. Terrible. The slagging you and others here give Islam, well that's just common sense.)
Actually my problem with your post(and similar posts of yours) is the attitude that, because we have our own home grown assholes we should have no problem with the dreck we import.
Allow me to point out that, until assholes like this guy start using Christianity as an excuse for their vile, repulsive, reprehensible acts and until a goodly portion of Christianity thinks those vile, repulsive and reprehensible acts are morally just there is absolutely, zip, nada, nil, no comparison between the North American purveyors of these types of sick and disgusting crimes and the Jihadi terrorists some people on this forum champion.
The closest we in North America have had to a terrorist zealot was Timothy McVeigh and I'm pretty sure most Christians thought his action in Oklahoma City to be nothing more than a heinous terrorist attack purported by a Government hater. Not, some morally superior devotee who was going to go to heaven for committing that barbarous act. Also, I may be wrong but, for the life of me I can't seem to remember any Christian Religious leaders applauding his actions. No Parish Priests, no Anglican Ministers no Baptist Deacons, none. As a matter of fact, nobody from the Christian Religion stepped forward and claimed McVeigh had a moral and divine obligation to do what he did.
I may be missing something here but it's pretty apparent that one group is completely devoid of human emotions and redeeming values but, secular while, the other group is comprised of a fun loving bunch of goat fucking, sheep stealing, dog hating, women beating, butt licking, religious zealots who, with the approval of a large portion of their religion and it's leaders want nothing more than to drag humanity back into their warped vision of the dark ages.
So, to compare the two disparate groups is completely disingenuous and nothing more than a strawman to try and deflect the blame for acts like those perpetrated against Charlie Hebdo from where they rightly belong. On the backs of radical Islam and the followers who openly or overtly support it.
"andyt" said Especially when it becomes killing all Muslims the way Bart has
You still haven't explained why you support killing all the Jews. Your blind, venomous hatred of these people utterly confounds me and one of these days I hope you would learn to embrace tolerance and respect for others.
Take it from me, that CKA block function works wonders when you finally have enough of dealing with the designated trololols. 'Display this post'?, Nah, I don't think so, fella.
"Thanos" said Take it from me, that CKA block function works wonders when you finally have enough of dealing with the designated trololols. 'Display this post'?, Nah, I don't think so, fella.
I vowed I would never block/ignore any poster on this site but I reneged on myself and finally had to do it. I find it makes posting here more fun no longer having to view a certain persons idiocy.
What about them Christians, eh?
Once again andy projects. Nothing in the article gave mention of any religious background.
There are far more incidents like this in the US and Canada with far more casualties, by various citizens than by jihadist attacks. But all the wailing and moaning is about the jihadis, and how their evil religion makes them do this. Well, what makes people like this guy do this, or the Sandy Hook guy, or too many to list. Those are just the bad apples, the guys gone off the rails, while all Muslims are deemed to be responsible for acts of jihadis. I'm continually assured here by people that the US and Canada were founded by by Christians, ie are Christian nations, and surveys in both countries show the vast majority identify as Christians. Maybe Christianity is playing a role in all this.
(I know, I know, PA9, there I go again slagging Christianity. Terrible. The slagging you and others here give Islam, well that's just common sense.)
I don't understand why you slag Christianity and then complain when people complain about Muslims. Sme shit, different pile, if you ask me.
To show how stupid it is to tar all Muslims with the same brush. Especially when it becomes killing all Muslims the way Bart has, or other extreme measures which even you seem to favor. Making it us vs them (all Muslims) isn't going to do anybody any good. Making it us (including most Muslims) vs them (the jihadis) will work out much better. The Muslims have to do their part, need to get off their asses. I'd like to see them organizing protests against jihadism. But that doesn't mean we get to just sit back and keep alienating them. This could all turn very very ugly (more so than it is now).
As usual, I'm surprised that no comments from you about all the shit flung at Muslims by so many posters, but let me do a little bit of the same, and there you are. Always surprises me what's deemed unremarkable here and what isn't.
To show how stupid it is to tar all Muslims with the same brush. Especially when it becomes killing all Muslims the way Bart has, or other extreme measures which even you seem to favor. Making it us vs them (all Muslims) isn't going to do anybody any good. Making it us (including most Muslims) vs them (the jihadis) will work out much better. The Muslims have to do their part, need to get off their asses. I'd like to see them organizing protests against jihadism. But that doesn't mean we get to just sit back and keep alienating them. This could all turn very very ugly (more so than it is now).
As usual, I'm surprised that no comments from you about all the shit flung at Muslims by so many posters, but let me do a little bit of the same, and there you are. Always surprises me what's deemed unremarkable here and what isn't.
It stupid, but you do the same with Christians.
I don't fling shit generally. Now and then, but not much. I'm not going to change anybody's mind, particulary when it comes to strong emotions like fear and hate.
I don't have much time for devout Muslims, Jews and Christians�in that order actually. I don't have much time for evangelical atheists either to be honest. I live around a lot of Muslims, and I have no problem with them, though they are mostly Iranian. I might feel differently if theyer were predominately Pakistani or Somali. To be honest, I wouldn't trust any white guy that converted to Islam.
What about them Christians, eh?
Trolling is a way of life for you, isn't it?
-J.
No, sure, Idaho is just chock full of muslims.
There are far more incidents like this in the US and Canada with far more casualties, by various citizens than by jihadist attacks. But all the wailing and moaning is about the jihadis, and how their evil religion makes them do this. Well, what makes people like this guy do this, or the Sandy Hook guy, or too many to list. Those are just the bad apples, the guys gone off the rails, while all Muslims are deemed to be responsible for acts of jihadis. I'm continually assured here by people that the US and Canada were founded by by Christians, ie are Christian nations, and surveys in both countries show the vast majority identify as Christians. Maybe Christianity is playing a role in all this.
(I know, I know, PA9, there I go again slagging Christianity. Terrible. The slagging you and others here give Islam, well that's just common sense.)
Actually my problem with your post(and similar posts of yours) is the attitude that, because we have our own home grown assholes we should have no problem with the dreck we import.
The closest we in North America have had to a terrorist zealot was Timothy McVeigh and I'm pretty sure most Christians thought his action in Oklahoma City to be nothing more than a heinous terrorist attack purported by a Government hater. Not, some morally superior devotee who was going to go to heaven for committing that barbarous act. Also, I may be wrong but, for the life of me I can't seem to remember any Christian Religious leaders applauding his actions. No Parish Priests, no Anglican Ministers no Baptist Deacons, none. As a matter of fact, nobody from the Christian Religion stepped forward and claimed McVeigh had a moral and divine obligation to do what he did.
I may be missing something here but it's pretty apparent that one group is completely devoid of human emotions and redeeming values but, secular while, the other group is comprised of a fun loving bunch of goat fucking, sheep stealing, dog hating, women beating, butt licking, religious zealots who, with the approval of a large portion of their religion and it's leaders want nothing more than to drag humanity back into their warped vision of the dark ages.
So, to compare the two disparate groups is completely disingenuous and nothing more than a strawman to try and deflect the blame for acts like those perpetrated against Charlie Hebdo from where they rightly belong. On the backs of radical Islam and the followers who openly or overtly support it.
Especially when it becomes killing all Muslims the way Bart has
You still haven't explained why you support killing all the Jews. Your blind, venomous hatred of these people utterly confounds me and one of these days I hope you would learn to embrace tolerance and respect for others.
Take it from me, that CKA block function works wonders when you finally have enough of dealing with the designated trololols. 'Display this post'?, Nah, I don't think so, fella.
I vowed I would never block/ignore any poster on this site but I reneged on myself and finally had to do it. I find it makes posting here more fun no longer having to view a certain persons idiocy.