PARIS (Reuters) - France's ban on full face veils, a first in Europe, went into force Monday, exposing anyone who wears the Muslim niqab or burqa in public to fines of 150 euros ($216).
It's good that the French are pushing back against being "Muslimified". I wonder if this will do more harm than good tho, in the sense of a push back when the law has no real good reason. Ban face coverings for security reasons, that's a good idea. Just proscribing what people can wear is not. It corrodes the liberty of the state and may come back to haunt the French. You want to push back against a foreign culture, don't make exemptions for anybody, treat everybody the same. But don't make silly rules that will be hard to enforce and take away freedoms for no good reason. Surely I would have thought the French would understand the meaning of the word nuance.
I wonder what will happen in cases where you have "full veil" hardcore wearers... by the woman's choice or the husband's... doesn't matter. They may voluntarily, or forcefully, lock themselves inside their home and not go out.
"raydan" said I wonder what will happen in cases where you have "full veil" hardcore wearers... by the woman's choice or the husband's... doesn't matter. They may voluntarily, or forcefully, lock themselves inside their home and not go out.
Oh, meaning their life will be closer to home, where they cannot go out without a male relative ?
Anyway that's good idea, people of this religion are not understanding what they are losing. France is country of freedom, so there is no reason for not using it by people from another cultures.
"martin14" said Understandably, you guys dont get the reasons behind this law, and that's fine.
The French people support this, and it's a good idea.
What people are not understanding Martin is that this law has nothing to do with religion, but everything to do with 'our' safety. have been dressing up in this complete outfit, and getting past security, because , 'as a woman' they know they can't/won't be searched, then after they have entered a populated public area, they detonate a concealed body pack, killing many innocent people!
"xerxes" said Yes, it's a medieval, misogynist tradition, but it is ultimately their right to choose to wear one.
And they have every right in the world to live in a muslim country that tolerates that kind of thing. Sort of the same way Canada does not implicitly allow Muslim polygamy with child brides yet Muslims are free to live elsewhere and do such things.
I'm not use to saying good thigs about the French, but this is a good move. The women there can join the 21st century.
Not a fan of freedom of expression or religion, eh?
I'm not use to saying good thigs about the French, but this is a good move. The women there can join the 21st century.
Let's fight oppression by oppressing people.
The French people support this, and it's a good idea.
They may voluntarily, or forcefully, lock themselves inside their home and not go out.
I wonder what will happen in cases where you have "full veil" hardcore wearers... by the woman's choice or the husband's... doesn't matter.
They may voluntarily, or forcefully, lock themselves inside their home and not go out.
Oh, meaning their life will be closer to home, where they cannot go out
without a male relative ?
Good for them, they will be happy.
Understandably, you guys dont get the reasons behind this law, and that's fine.
The French people support this, and it's a good idea.
I'm not use to saying good thigs about the French, but this is a good move. The women there can join the 21st century.
Not a fan of freedom of expression or religion, eh?
The French also have laws against wearing swastikas in public. Oppressive lot, the French.
Yes, it's a medieval, misogynist tradition, but it is ultimately their right to choose to wear one.
And they have every right in the world to live in a muslim country that tolerates that kind of thing. Sort of the same way Canada does not implicitly allow Muslim polygamy with child brides yet Muslims are free to live elsewhere and do such things.