A 94-year-old Victoria woman is making no secret of her wish to commit suicide, but she can't find anyone to give her the lethal medication she needs to end her life.
"uwish" said haven't we been down this road several times before? (legally)
While I believe you SHOULD have the right to end your life with assistance, legally there is no such right.
No, we haven't been down THIS road. We've been down the road that jury nulification cannot override minimum sentences in euthanasia cases (Robert Latimer) and we've been down the road that constitutional exemptions will not be granted against homicide laws (Sue Rodriguez). This is a different "road" because it's a different legal argument.
This lady pisses me off, she's not terminally ill, shes old, to do this for her reasons is wrong, I support people in pain, or those that are terminally ill going this route but not someone who's just plain old.
"Choban" said This lady pisses me off, she's not terminally ill, shes old, to do this for her reasons is wrong, I support people in pain, or those that are terminally ill going this route but not someone who's just plain old.
Like I said, I support the right to die movement, but I'll quote from the article.
Packford is not suffering from any illness and can still get around with the help of a walker, but she said she feels worse than she looks. So addmitedly she is suffering nothing more than old age, no terminal illness, nothing more than the regular aches and pains felt by all senior citizens
every day I'm getting weaker. Every day is an effort for me Once again, no more than anyone over 90
Also terrified of having a stroke and being helpless, the longtime social activist wants both the legal right to plan her own death and a doctor to help her do it. Whos not scared of having a stroke and being a veggie, hell, I'm 32, heart and stroke problems run in my family, does that mean I should end it all.
For Packford, it's about being given the control to make the choice So once again, it's not about ending suffering, it's about control and her personal choice. She's a noted activist and I can't help but feel she's just stirring the pot because that's what she does.
Packford acknowledges that because she is not terminally ill, she would not qualify for a program like Oregon's, but she was undeterred.
She said she still wanted to "get going while the going's good." I think truthfully this statement says it all, she's 94 and looking to dodge the whole surprise your dead aspect of life. If a doctor said to her, you have 6 months to live and heres a shitload of pills to dull your chronic debilitating pain then I wouldn't argue her right to die at all, but under her circumstances I don't
This is different than euthenasie. If she wants to kill herself, she should kill herself and not try to let others kill her. My husband's granddad decided he wanted to be euthanised rather than waiting for the next fatal hart attack, but the docter cried while injecting him. The docter still thought he could fix him.
It's her life, but she shouldn't make her desire to end her life make somebody else's problem. Go to a drugmarket, buy a couple of pills and end it yourself.
"Faye" said This is different than euthenasie. If she wants to kill herself, she should kill herself and not try to let others kill her. My husband's granddad decided he wanted to be euthanised rather than waiting for the next fatal hart attack, but the docter cried while injecting him. The docter still thought he could fix him.
It's her life, but she shouldn't make her desire to end her life make somebody else's problem. Go to a drugmarket, buy a couple of pills and end it yourself.
A 94-year-old Victoria woman is making no secret of her wish to commit suicide, but she can't find anyone to give her the lethal medication she needs to end her life.
I don't know where you live, Faye, but my local drug market, at least the legal one, won't just give you pills that kill you. But that is all she wants, a doc to prescribe something that will kill her. I'm sure she's also making a point - if she was desperate to kill herself, she would find a way. I thank her for her effort. We should allow people to kill themselves, help them as needed, but require they have some sessions with a counselor first, so they will explore other options.
Try a box full of Tylenol. What about sleeping pills? I had a back injury a while back and the medication I could just buy at the London Drug store amazed me. It wouldn't work on a younger person, but with her health it could just work.
"Mr_Canada" said As far as pills go, they are unpredictable. It could work, it could not work. It could be painful, it could be slow, or it could be nothing. It could even just be irritating. It won't guarantee someone a peaceful death.
There are instructions available on the internet on how to make your own peaceful suicide pill though.
Tylenol affects the liver and enough alcohol combined with enough Tylenol will do it, Family members of Phsycosis outpatients are asked to remove all tylenol from their home for just this reason.
While I believe you SHOULD have the right to end your life with assistance, legally there is no such right.
haven't we been down this road several times before? (legally)
While I believe you SHOULD have the right to end your life with assistance, legally there is no such right.
No, we haven't been down THIS road. We've been down the road that jury nulification cannot override minimum sentences in euthanasia cases (Robert Latimer) and we've been down the road that constitutional exemptions will not be granted against homicide laws (Sue Rodriguez). This is a different "road" because it's a different legal argument.
This lady pisses me off, she's not terminally ill, shes old, to do this for her reasons is wrong, I support people in pain, or those that are terminally ill going this route but not someone who's just plain old.
Why? Isn't it her life?
Like I said, I support the right to die movement, but I'll quote from the article.
Packford is not suffering from any illness and can still get around with the help of a walker, but she said she feels worse than she looks.
So addmitedly she is suffering nothing more than old age, no terminal illness, nothing more than the regular aches and pains felt by all senior citizens
every day I'm getting weaker. Every day is an effort for me
Once again, no more than anyone over 90
Also terrified of having a stroke and being helpless, the longtime social activist wants both the legal right to plan her own death and a doctor to help her do it.
Whos not scared of having a stroke and being a veggie, hell, I'm 32, heart and stroke problems run in my family, does that mean I should end it all.
For Packford, it's about being given the control to make the choice
So once again, it's not about ending suffering, it's about control and her personal choice. She's a noted activist and I can't help but feel she's just stirring the pot because that's what she does.
Packford acknowledges that because she is not terminally ill, she would not qualify for a program like Oregon's, but she was undeterred.
She said she still wanted to "get going while the going's good."
I think truthfully this statement says it all, she's 94 and looking to dodge the whole surprise your dead aspect of life. If a doctor said to her, you have 6 months to live and heres a shitload of pills to dull your chronic debilitating pain then I wouldn't argue her right to die at all, but under her circumstances I don't
It's her life, but she shouldn't make her desire to end her life make somebody else's problem. Go to a drugmarket, buy a couple of pills and end it yourself.
This is different than euthenasie. If she wants to kill herself, she should kill herself and not try to let others kill her. My husband's granddad decided he wanted to be euthanised rather than waiting for the next fatal hart attack, but the docter cried while injecting him. The docter still thought he could fix him.
It's her life, but she shouldn't make her desire to end her life make somebody else's problem. Go to a drugmarket, buy a couple of pills and end it yourself.
I don't know where you live, Faye, but my local drug market, at least the legal one, won't just give you pills that kill you. But that is all she wants, a doc to prescribe something that will kill her. I'm sure she's also making a point - if she was desperate to kill herself, she would find a way. I thank her for her effort. We should allow people to kill themselves, help them as needed, but require they have some sessions with a counselor first, so they will explore other options.
Try a box full of Tylenol. What about sleeping pills? I had a back injury a while back and the medication I could just buy at the London Drug store amazed me. It wouldn't work on a younger person, but with her health it could just work.
As far as pills go, they are unpredictable. It could work, it could not work. It could be painful, it could be slow, or it could be nothing. It could even just be irritating. It won't guarantee someone a peaceful death.
There are instructions available on the internet on how to make your own peaceful suicide pill though.
Tylenol affects the liver and enough alcohol combined with enough Tylenol will do it, Family members of Phsycosis outpatients are asked to remove all tylenol from their home for just this reason.