[Thanos]

I have a post in mind for the inevitable inauguration thread. It needs careful studying of The Downfall of Numenor in Tolkien's The Silmarillion.



I don't mind having most of my morality and ethics being derived from fiction and fictional characters. There's little enough of it in reality that I've ever encountered so I had to get it from somewhere.

[andyt]

Our numbnuts always have to copy what goes on down there.

[Freakinoldguy]

Lemmy Lemmy:

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Ask yourself what your post contributed to the discussion and you'll have your answer.

Huh? Are you off your head again?

I believe I indicated that O'Leary would be a viable candidate. I suggested that is partly because Trudeau's a stammering fool and partly because the rightwing media's successfully vilified him.

You got something different?

If you consider that rambling dissertation on nothing a ringing endorsement for O'leary and a slag on our bumbling leader then I'd be seriously be interested in seeing your thought process for someone you don't want to get elected.

As for my head, it's still fine although, after reading your original post in this thread it hurt for a little while. But anyway, thanks for asking.

[Freakinoldguy]

CDN_PATRIOT CDN_PATRIOT:

O'Leary's position on the military and veterans is disturbing. I can't vote for this man when my ballot shows up. He's a loud-mouthed braggart with no substance. The way it looks right now, I'm going with Kellie Leitch. Unless Peter MacKay jumps in......but he won't.

-J.

I would have loved Rona Ambrose to have run for the Conservatives leadership. She's shown she can be an effective opposition leader so, it wouldn't have been a stretch to see her as an effective PM. Of all the remaining Conservative MP's she seems to be the one who has her shit together.

As for O'leary becoming the PM. It's all smoke and mirrors but then again stranger things have happened.

[shockedcanadian]

O'Learys success or lackthereof will depend on how angry Canadians are. We haven't been getting screwed by other nations the way Americans have, in fact, we have been doing much of the screwing of Americans so he might not gain traction here. The fact is, however you try to spin it, Canada is in trouble in the foreseeable future.

If Trump is wildly successful the first couple of months, it bodes well for the likes of O Leary and he can push the envelope even further and even point to Trump as evidence. If he came out as a laissez-faire economist with Libertarian tendencies, I believe he could surprise many. Big government, police interference in the lives of Canadians, all of this is one massive target and he can hit a bullseye without much effort.

People don't care about personalities or niceties when they are getting their asses kicked and can't make ends meet while some person in their Ivory Tower reminds them of how great things are. Regular folks aren't buying the narrative with ease anymore, the facts contradict what they are being told. He might be an opportunist in this regard but politics has always been sales. Voters will buy on the perceived need. It's a Canadian trait, just look at the massive and overbloated Toronto Police and OPP budgets. They've been doing it for decades, selling how important they are so that their otherwise incompetent kids can have a career and they expand their empire. This strategy is now rearing it's head in politics.

You reap what you sow, and every new leader of a nation is a direct result of the former leader. I will give all prospects a chance, of those I have listened to, Raitt seems most in line with my philosophy thus far.

[shockedcanadian]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

CDN_PATRIOT CDN_PATRIOT:

O'Leary's position on the military and veterans is disturbing. I can't vote for this man when my ballot shows up. He's a loud-mouthed braggart with no substance. The way it looks right now, I'm going with Kellie Leitch. Unless Peter MacKay jumps in......but he won't.

-J.

I would have loved Rona Ambrose to have run for the Conservatives leadership. She's shown she can be an effective opposition leader so, it wouldn't have been a stretch to see her as an effective PM. Of all the remaining Conservative MP's she seems to be the one who has her shit together.

As for O'leary becoming the PM. It's all smoke and mirrors but then again stranger things have happened.

Ambrose is not a leader. She was a "yes" woman throughout Harpers reign. She watched as some of the worst Canadians were given plush posts. Trash like Vic Toews and Julien Fantino. She stood shoulder to shoulder with him, a "mini me" of sorts, while Harper eroded the party reputation in his second term.

People like her are the worst types of politicians. I didn't like John Baird much as he seemed like a self righteous pitbull, but at least he stood on his own and left politics with the comment that "politics shouldn't be a lifetime job". That said alot to me.

The best conservative was probably McKay, the rest of these candidates have an uphill battle, though so far Raitt has gained my ear. This in itself is difficult to do as my opinion of Canadian politicians is extremely low considering how many have ignored my pleas for assistance or accountability.

[Lemmy]

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[Freakinoldguy]

shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

CDN_PATRIOT CDN_PATRIOT:

O'Leary's position on the military and veterans is disturbing. I can't vote for this man when my ballot shows up. He's a loud-mouthed braggart with no substance. The way it looks right now, I'm going with Kellie Leitch. Unless Peter MacKay jumps in......but he won't.

-J.

I would have loved Rona Ambrose to have run for the Conservatives leadership. She's shown she can be an effective opposition leader so, it wouldn't have been a stretch to see her as an effective PM. Of all the remaining Conservative MP's she seems to be the one who has her shit together.

As for O'leary becoming the PM. It's all smoke and mirrors but then again stranger things have happened.

Ambrose is not a leader. She was a "yes" woman throughout Harpers reign. She watched as some of the worst Canadians were given plush posts. Trash like Vic Toews and Julien Fantino. She stood shoulder to shoulder with him, a "mini me" of sorts, while Harper eroded the party reputation in his second term.

People like her are the worst types of politicians. I didn't like John Baird much as he seemed like a self righteous pitbull, but at least he stood on his own and left politics with the comment that "politics shouldn't be a lifetime job". That said alot to me.

The best conservative was probably McKay, the rest of these candidates have an uphill battle, though so far Raitt has gained my ear. This in itself is difficult to do as my opinion of Canadian politicians is extremely low considering how many have ignored my pleas for assistance or accountability.

In case you hadn't noticed. Harper is gone and Ambrose has stepped out of his shadow as leader of the opposition. Given that she has no ambitions to be party leader she's doing a credible job of keeping our Fearless Leader under the microscope, even more so than that other lame duck leader Tom Mulcair.

But, my guess is that you don't like Rona Ambrose because she, like every other Canadian politician you've bothered, annoyed and castigated didn't give a shit about what "you" wanted and put their other constituents, party and country before you which, is driving you nuts. So, here's a news flash. You own your own personal problems not the politicians or anyone else and to say they didn't give you the assistance you wanted and deserved without showing proof is utter bullshit and makes you come off as nothing more than another hack with a personal agenda.

So, prove me wrong by showing me the facts of your situation and not just the usual random allegations that Canadian Politicians, police and other people in positions of authority have failed you personally and I'll retract the hack part of my statement.

[DrCaleb]

herbie herbie:

$1:

Joe Clark started the downhill. He was no Conservative, too much of a Red Tory.

See?
None of these posters are conservatives, conservatives are 'too left' for their liking. Now don't mention names of politics that are to the right of conservatives with populism built in or you'll hear worse whining and denial than if you said 'global warming'.....

I'll never deny being a Red Tory, or 'centrist'. I'm too economically conservative for the Liberals, and too socially liberal for the Conservatives.

[DrCaleb]

shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:

Ambrose is not a leader. She was a "yes" woman throughout Harpers reign. She watched as some of the worst Canadians were given plush posts. Trash like Vic Toews and Julien Fantino. She stood shoulder to shoulder with him, a "mini me" of sorts, while Harper eroded the party reputation in his second term.

People like her are the worst types of politicians.

Finally, something we can agree on!

shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:

The best conservative was probably McKay

Nope, nope, nope. Just ask David Orchard.

[DrCaleb]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

But, my guess is that you don't like Rona Ambrose because she, like every other Canadian politician you've bothered, annoyed and castigated didn't give a shit about what "you" wanted and put their other constituents, party and country before you which, is driving you nuts.

As one of her constituents that has actually met her, I can say that she is aloof, ignorant, rude and condescending. I asked her a direct question; Why does she not participate in town hall forum debates with other candidates during the federal election cycle? She basically said that they weren't worth debating, and it was a waste of time since this riding hadn't voted anything other than Conservative since Joe Clark was the MP.

She doesn't even try to be part of this riding. She's just here because it's a safe riding, and requires no effort on her part.

[Lemmy]

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[shockedcanadian]

[[/quote]

I would have loved Rona Ambrose to have run for the Conservatives leadership. She's shown she can be an effective opposition leader so, it wouldn't have been a stretch to see her as an effective PM. Of all the remaining Conservative MP's she seems to be the one who has her shit together.

As for O'leary becoming the PM. It's all smoke and mirrors but then again stranger things have happened.[/quote]

Ambrose is not a leader. She was a "yes" woman throughout Harpers reign. She watched as some of the worst Canadians were given plush posts. Trash like Vic Toews and Julien Fantino. She stood shoulder to shoulder with him, a "mini me" of sorts, while Harper eroded the party reputation in his second term.

People like her are the worst types of politicians. I didn't like John Baird much as he seemed like a self righteous pitbull, but at least he stood on his own and left politics with the comment that "politics shouldn't be a lifetime job". That said alot to me.

The best conservative was probably McKay, the rest of these candidates have an uphill battle, though so far Raitt has gained my ear. This in itself is difficult to do as my opinion of Canadian politicians is extremely low considering how many have ignored my pleas for assistance or accountability.[/quote]

In case you hadn't noticed. Harper is gone and Ambrose has stepped out of his shadow as leader of the opposition. Given that she has no ambitions to be party leader she's doing a credible job of keeping our Fearless Leader under the microscope, even more so than that other lame duck leader Tom Mulcair.

But, my guess is that you don't like Rona Ambrose because she, like every other Canadian politician you've bothered, annoyed and castigated didn't give a shit about what "you" wanted and put their other constituents, party and country before you which, is driving you nuts. So, here's a news flash. You own your own personal problems not the politicians or anyone else and to say they didn't give you the assistance you wanted and deserved without showing proof is utter bullshit and makes you come off as nothing more than another hack with a personal agenda.

So, prove me wrong by showing me the facts of your situation and not just the usual random allegations that Canadian Politicians, police and other people in positions of authority have failed you personally and I'll retract the hack part of my statement.[/quote]



The details I have shared with the politicians and conmen who push their agenda. Including names and specific details, emails and other evidence. If you think someone as ambitious and driven as I am would waste my time on this endeavour just for kicks than you clearly haven't been listening.

Here is the important issue, the names, details and emails haven't been denied by these politicians and Conmen Commissioners. It was something a lawyer advised me of long ago which I absorbed and remembered throughout this process as he advised me to directly accuse them and name them in my correspondence with politicians, RCMP, OPP and TPS. The Trinity. The reason the names and details haven't been denied is because it could pose legal and accountability issues with these same politicians and police "leaders".

Only one name was ever denied to me and that was an accusation that a particular person worked for CSIS. Unfortunately, my accusations against the police and the names I gave were NOT denied. See the difference? This

It turned out I was wrong about this one piece of trash, he doesn't work for CSIS, turns out he is a cop. Not good for business in Ontario I can assure you. I am best served by ensuring economic consequences and cc'ing these politicians and leaders so that they see first hand the consequences of their action or lackthereof.

Once Trump is in power and his administration is in place, I have a great deal more people to speak truth to power. Anything I can do to advise Americans of what is going on in Toronto, Ontario, Canada and why they should think twice before investing in Canada.

The last email communication I had was with the largest technology companies that bordered Canada. CEO's CIO's, Vince Hawkes and Kathleen Wynne as it were. I did it a couple of weeks before most of these technology CEO's were to meet face to face with Trump. If I could have CC'ed Trump I would have but he only has a form to send, that will change very soon which is good news for democracy and economic freedom.

[DrCaleb]

Lemmy Lemmy:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

As one of her constituents that has actually met her, I can say that she is aloof, ignorant, rude and condescending. I asked her a direct question; Why does she not participate in town hall forum debates with other candidates during the federal election cycle? She basically said that they weren't worth debating, and it was a waste of time since this riding hadn't voted anything other than Conservative since Joe Clark was the MP.

She doesn't even try to be part of this riding. She's just here because it's a safe riding, and requires no effort on her part.

She seems that she wouldn't be a very generous lover.

I wouldn't do her with your dick and someone else pushing.

[BRAH]

Kevin O'Leary could be a better choice, he won't demand immigrants take a Leitch Canadian Values Test because he will be focused on business.