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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:17 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson: Go ahead and legalize pot. Just don't mind us as we militarize the border and it takes you 8 hours to cross the border. What ever happen too the ideas of open borders with Canada?  "May these gates never close."
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:29 pm
Unsound Unsound: BartSimpson BartSimpson: Go ahead and legalize pot. Just don't mind us as we militarize the border and it takes you 8 hours to cross the border. I realize it's a little bit naive, but I would like to think we could make some of our own laws without being overly concerned with what the American reaction would be. And of course, we could always insist that the oil and gas we send south gets sent at a rate roughly equal to the speed with which people get through the border crossings. And we could do our own slow-down checking for illegal and controlled guns crossing the border coming north. Sadly, that's naive. Now that we have the typical knee-jerk forum threats out of the way from our American cousins, let's just say fuck it. With pot legal, why the fuck would you go south anyway?
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:31 pm
I think Bart needs to relax and smoke. Nearly half of Washingtonians smokes BC pot. I've never smoke because I hate the smell of it. It's time for the states to end the ban.
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:32 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson: Go ahead and legalize pot. Just don't mind us as we militarize the border and it takes you 8 hours to cross the border. Geez we have enough trouble coming back in.. I mean the Canadian Border Patrol have to make sure they collect the taxes and confiscate booze.
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:01 pm
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:05 pm
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:14 pm
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada: BartSimpson BartSimpson: Go ahead and legalize pot. Just don't mind us as we militarize the border and it takes you 8 hours to cross the border. What's great is that Americans want it legal too. So whatever, police state. Beat some stoners, 'Fuck freedom!',  Nope. Proposition 19, to legalize pot in California, was soundly defeated at the polls earlier this month. If legalization won't pass in California then it's a dead issue in the rest of the USA.
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:17 pm
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:20 pm
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada: It is not, each state as far as I know is able to do whatever they want... California's decisions are separate from Virginia.
...And if they gained enough support once, and the 'approve' numbers keep rising, it'll be inevitable that a new proposition will arrive and eventually will be soundly approved.
It's not a dead issue: People are still smoking pot. You're not much on nuance, are you? Let me spell this out for you: With California being as liberal on drugs as it is if legalizing pot were going to pass anywhere in the USA it would be in California. With the recent vote the fact that it cannot pass in California (and create a precedent) means that the 49 other states that are more conservative on drug use are highly unlikely to pass such laws.
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:24 pm
I thought I heard somewhere that Nevada also had legalization on the ballot this past vote. I take it it didn't go too well there either?
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:28 pm
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:36 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson: Mr_Canada Mr_Canada: BartSimpson BartSimpson: Go ahead and legalize pot. Just don't mind us as we militarize the border and it takes you 8 hours to cross the border. What's great is that Americans want it legal too. So whatever, police state. Beat some stoners, 'Fuck freedom!',  Nope. Proposition 19, to legalize pot in California, was soundly defeated at the polls earlier this month. If legalization won't pass in California then it's a dead issue in the rest of the USA. It's mainly the propaganda from the likes of conservatives saying Pot will make people more stupid. It will create more crime. Legalizing pot will save government millions.
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:39 pm
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada: So you are against the argument of democracy for this? No, but it seems that you are. As far as I'm concerned the issue was put to the people in an act of pure democracy and the issue was rejected. What part of that don't you understand? Mr_Canada Mr_Canada: That regardless of the people's increasing popular support (could care less about their governments, which don't represent the popular support) you feel that they will be halted forever more? That regardless of more and more people having a sane opinion on it, insanity will reign? Or do you actually believe the pro-legalization crowd has hit it's max popular support? (because it hasn't) Forgive me if I don't care about your perception of 'growing support' as you also herald the notion of growing support for communism. 
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:41 pm
The_Doctor The_Doctor: It's mainly the propaganda from the likes of conservatives saying Pot will make people more stupid. It will create more crime.
Legalizing pot will save government millions. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2 ... on-19.html$1: Mexican President Felipe Calderon strongly criticized Proposition 19, the California ballot measure that would legalize small amounts of marijuana, saying it reflects softening attitudes toward drug consumption in the U.S. that is undercutting efforts to control organized crime groups in Mexico.
"The growing acceptance by the American public of marijuana as a medicinal drug is absurd," Calderon said, and he expressed disappointment that the U.S. federal government hasn't done more to oppose the measure.
"I think they have very little moral authority to condemn a Mexican farmer who for hunger is planting marijuana to sustain the insatiable North American market for drugs," said Calderon in an interview with the Los Angeles Times.
California's Proposition 19 could have enormous implications for Mexico, and has triggered sharp debates between advocates who say passage could help stop the drug war and critics who are worried that growing demand would empower organized crime groups.
Calderon said loosening drug consumption laws would result in "serious consequences for American and Mexican society."
"Drugs kill in production. Drugs kill in distribution, as is the case in the violence in Mexico, and drugs kill in consumption," Calderon said. 
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:44 pm
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